They are the agents that rep him. Spencer Strider (left) and Michael Harris II are vying to give the Braves their seventh National League Rookie of the Year. Past that, I think all these extensions are based on the character of the player as much as talent. Played 2019 w/a bad heel. Mike Soroka, if he would have been extended at the same time in his career than Strider just was, would have two years of no value add to the team due to his Achilles injuries. Cole Phillips, RHP 7. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. Fried is also entering his 5th full season but his 3rd arb year and hes set to make $12.2M for an All-Star appearance, 2 GG, 1 SS, and a career FIP of 3.30. Lets say we overpaid for Diaz, because ultimately thats what it was. They average the length of the deal. Everything is an option, quite honestly, Snitker said. But Wont cripple the team either way & theyve locked up a young core. Thats only one example, but theres so much more risk on the free agent market (especially when looking for TOR arms) than locking up someone that could slot into that. They have his first two free-agent years one locked in and the other as a club option. Puts more AAV up front versus the higher luxury tax hit theyd eventually get if they went year to year through arbitration and/or later extensions. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2955053-mlb-predictions-2022-updated-win-loss-projections-for-every-team, https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2022-mlb-predictions-expert-picks-for-division-winners-and-world-series-champion-ahead-of-opening-day/, Thanks RunDMC, that is pretty lousy that Amy writer had the Mets ahead of the defending WS champions. If Free Agents make $40M in five years, if hes healthy, if he remains productive. Even if you assume he will get less than Soto for whatever reason, then $7+mm, $14+mm, $22+mm, and $30+mm is extremely reasonable. Au contraire it is you who needs to check their info. While no one can predict the future, ATL knows these players theyre extending better than anyone. His great year does not guarantee future success as he has not sustained it for nearly long enough. And with a World Series win in 2021 and another postseason run forthcoming, the NL East-champion Braves will no doubt see a boost to their revenues, lessening the sting of any luxury penalties that may arise in the next couple years. Spencer Strider was drafted by the Cleveland Indians in the 35th round of the 2017 MLB June Amateur Draft from Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville, TN) and the Atlanta Braves in the 4th round of the 2020 MLB June Amateur Draft from Clemson University (Clemson, SC). He will finish next year with exactly TWO FULL YEARS OF SERVICE!! I didnt know what he meant. Signing Strider screwed their budget for no good reason. Be disappointed if you are going to be anything Braves fans because soon youll see when he falls short of expectations, which is anything short of him becoming Pedro Martinez and hes no Pedro! 3rd ARB year was supposed to be $21.5 MM. That 4th year is going to be around $30 million and his FA is going to be more than that. TJ surgery for Munoz, Greene, and almost every other guy to hit 99+ mph. Now sign 7! Braves righty Spencer Strider has been put on the 15-day injured list with a strained oblique muscle. For 1st? Braves lock up Spencer Strider with a $75 million, 6-year contract - The Boston Globe A decision will be made Tuesday morning as to Spencer Strider's availability for the NL Division Series.. Sign Grissom to an extension? Nats should be happy Soto turned down that contract. Meanwhile the Mets toss money at aging crap. Inning 3: Salary-cap drafts Inning 4: Preparation . No, hes *NOT* a Super Two candidate. Not a fan of it, but thats the way it works. $16M (2026) Cant believe that AA lets him leave. Speak for yourself. I think its even more encouraging within you're organization to know your going to have that nucleus every year.. I also would like to see how Strider does next year before extending him. You dont. Extra year for having a mustache. I finally cut the cord and were saving thousands every year. That earned him a six-year extension worth $75 million. Player page for Spencer Strider of the Atlanta Braves. You are making a lot of wild assumptions. I agree. Salary: All-Star: World Series: 2021 Atlanta Braves: 65--2022 Atlanta Braves: But if he is what it looks like he could be, its a steal. Agree MFF. Furthermore, Strider struck out 202 opposing batters in 131.2 innings pitched. Hopefully Strider has a great career and its not an issue, but if it goes poorly thats not going to be a fun contract to have on the books in 2026-2028. @Lanidrac Its very unlikely to hurt the Braves badly, since short of catastrophic injury (for which theyll probably have insurance) theyd be keeping him around anyway, shepherding him through TJ should that happen, paying arb awards, collecting insurance. In Texas, the nicest home I can find in the Dallas area is 20,000 sq ft for $14M. $12.5 million a year is nothing in 2022 MLB. The Mets and Braves won the same number of games in the season, and the same in number in October. Rct and Cosmos2 are the two Met commenters on the site that most fit this description. Every FA in Swansons class is going to be more expensive than he will. "And go out and keep doing what we've been doing.". His service time was at 2 years and 148 days when he qualified for a difference of 145 days of service when a full season is 172 days. Dynasty. Thank_ God: The correct sentence structure you should have put is.. Try used instead of put. Elude.? I dont think you know what straw man means. Rookie starter Spencer Strider set a Braves record with 16 strikeouts in eight dominant innings during a 3-0 win over the Rockies on Thursday night. Please login to leave a reply. I wouldnt just throw around $140M in proven assets for $140M in prospects. We cant complain about how a big corporation treats people and not acknowledge when they get it right. Contact doesnt increase as bat speed wains, hand eye coordination deteriorates, and eye sight worsens. Well, the rich smart teams. The Albies deal is a massive savings, Acuna nearly as much. $8M (2025) To your point, Strider hasnt come close to earning it, hes shown PROMISE, not sustained success. Hes been a great pitcher so far, but he still really only has two pitches. And because he will likely finish top 2 in the ROY balloting, he would have been credited with a full year of service time in 2022 even if the Braves had tried to Kris Bryant him. The only way this deal makes sense is if he becomes an inner-circle Hall-of-Fame pitcher who is the greatest pitcher of our generation. J.R. Ritchie, RHP 3. Estimate 2023 Retained Salaries Leftover salaries from players who have been traded or released, or buyouts for declined options. 2024: minimum establishing the players relationship through goodwill too for the future. Spencer Strider +1100 Aaron Nola +1200 Max Fried +1200 Zac Gallen +1600 Zack Wheeler +1600 Julio Urias +2000 Joe Musgrove +2000 Brandon Woodruff +2000 Yu Darvish +2200 Logan Webb +3000 Kyle Wright . The Braves are a Smart Proactive Organization. It assumes continued success after only 130 IP in the majors, it assumes zero regression, it assumes increase arb records at every level, it assumes higher investments on pitchers which is trending away from that since all starters are facing TJ surgery at least once in their career. Why? Enormous good sense like instead of his 2023 and 2024 contract only counting for $1M against the salary cap each year on a year-to-year deal, He now counts almost $15M against the cap even when hes making $1M a year. Striders a freak athlete whos constantly striving to better his performance by physical training and analytic advancements. Thats not how you run a billion dollar company, its just not and thats exactly what they did. Albies was banged up this year but his $35M contract was earned in basically a year and a half. SPENCER AGUIAR. Thats worth roughly $54m, if you can even buy a prime age #1 starter for 2 years. You are going in with an assumption that he will absolutely get it. Imagine if they wouldve locked up Soroka. How Much Does Spencer Strider Make? I would give this contract a 5% chance of paying off for the Braves due to injury risk, statistical volatility, x-factor changes in both personal life and professional baseball. Cohen would give his first born to have Strider. But they know that by having a huge core of players, their total risk will decrease and one or two could be replaced with gem finds at trade deadlines like AA is known for. Braves fans awoke on Monday looking forward to learning more about Striders health and potential availability during the NLDS. He'll be paid a $4MM salary in 2025 before jumping to . Hard throwing pitchers get seriously injured a lot. Victor Vodnik, RHP 14. I dont always disagree w/you. Your Shane Spencer strawman garbage makes no sense as a comp for any extension the Braves have executed. No, theyd be paying him much less than $40M over his arbitration years if he devolves into a 4.00 ERA pitcher., which is far from the worst case scenario for a pitcher who has only a dominant rookie year to date. He wouldnt get anywhere near the same amount of extra money in bonuses, and thats assuming he remains good enough to get additional bonuses after this year. Thats $47M making his free agent year more like $28M with a $22M option. He actually has only three days in 2021, so hell be close to the bottom of his class. Actually, you are totally wrong. Thats not to say every pitcher with between one and four years of service time will now require $75MM+ to sign an extension, of course; Striders case as a Rookie of the Year frontrunner and budding ace is far from the norm. Strider will qualify for Super Two, so he will get 4 years of arbitration and if next season is close to 2022 then its going to be between the current first year arb record for a starting pitcher of $9.5 million and Bellingers $11.5 million figure. By RotoWire Staff. Theyre in 10000x better position than anyone in that division to be a long term competitor, for sure. Question, Comment, Feedback, or Correction? Atlanta Braves Newsstand Transactions Spencer Strider, This makes 0 sense when the Braves controlled him for 5 years through arb anyway. They played their home games at Truist Park (Park Factors: 114/116) where 3,129,931 fans witnessed their 2022 Braves finish the season with a .623 winning percentage. Spencer Strider Contract 2022 Huge Braves fan, but youre making a reasonable point here. These deals were made after Matt Olson received his eight-year, $168 million deal one day after being acquired from the As in March. As a Yankee fan, Im much more resentful of the Yankees keeping their YES Network off of all of the streaming services except Direct TV. But most importantly it sets bad precedent for the rest of the league for one team to save a few million dollars. But it would certainly not be enough to be among the top 22 percent of players in that class (the lowest the Super Two cutoff has been since 2009 is 2 years and 115 days after 2019). For fans of baseballtradevalues.com, dont be surprised if he has negative $30M in value by 2025 when he has TJ surgery, misses a year and hes not quite as successful during his third or fourth pass through the league. Walk rate down to a career low while his K rate is basically at a career high. Thats the reverse logic he was trying to calculate for, but that doesnt make sense! 2023 Payroll Totals 2023 Active Competitive Balance Tax Totals Note: Tax figures based on payroll data only. Atlanta would have a franchise-record payroll in 2023 even if the only moves made by the front office were to simply tender arbitration contracts to their eligible players. No Gavin Lux -- big problem. Bigger pitchers hold up better, thicker pitchers hold up better. They also have a lot of money coming off the books this yr and next with internal options available to replace these players. 2nd year $14.75 mm, Sorry for the redundancy the message from the site was confusing. CBA has no affect on arb money because the union wouldnt let a segment of their members benefit in terms of general contract negotiations. (101-61, 1st place in NL East). Thank god, the contract was signed today based on his performance this year. All rights reserved. Spencer Strider undoubtedly earns a substantial sum of money from his sole career in baseball. He would have extended him for 10 years/$200m. He made $8 mil last year and $17 mil this year. Practically anyone who can browse streaming TV services in the first place can do it. He already missed a month due to injury. Perhaps this is me remembering Mike Hamptons contract. Theres talk ones coming. You? The average Plug and Play Tech Center hourly pay ranges from approximately $22 per hour for an Intern - Hourly to $69 per hour for a Partner Success Manager. Amateur career [ edit] Harvey was highly regarded as top prospect while Strider was considered middle reliever until may. The examples and numbers you give and your well edited comments make me believe you are a writer fiction, right? He wouldve made around $1M per pre-arbitration year in 23 and 24, anyway. Swanson 11.2 WAR. One BB fewer per 9 and hes right around peak Jacob deGrom. The contract will cost him $92 million if he exercises his option for seven years. Degrom was 29 in his first arbitration year coming off a season no where near as dominant as Strider. Biography, Net Worth, Gossips, Salary, News & Much More. The Atlanta Braves have placed right-hander Spencer Strider on the 15-day injured list with a strained left oblique muscle. In Braves speak, that means hes hitting FA. You are right about Striders value potentially increasing. June 27, 2022 To Spencer Strider, there are two parts of his baseball life: "PTJ" and "ATJ." Pre-Tommy John and After Tommy John. Not sure what your point is, but throwing 100 mph doesnt mean crap for a number of reasons, one there are guys like Mauricio Cabrera:, Bruce Rondn, Henry Alberto Rodriguez:, Joel Zumaya:, Tayron Guerrero, Bobby Parnell, who have touched 103 mph and none have made anywhere near that money and all had problems turning velocity into results. Hes expected to get 12 mill next season as an arb 3. Sure, its risky, but theyve gotten some historic numbers in a rookie season already from Strider. Spencer Strider is on Instagram at spencerstrider. If he is 2nd in ROY he is credited with a full year of service so he definitely would NOT be a Super Two. Your proof of value starts with if. This is irrelevant, this is such a stupid overpay. Its not if Strider has TJ surgery, but when he will have it. We present them here for purely educational purposes. Scores from any date in Major League history, Minor, Foreign, College, & Black Baseball, Frequently Asked Questions about MLB and Baseball, Subscribe to Stathead Baseball: Get your first month FREE. Cole has stated since he was in UCLA that he was a Yankee fan and wanted to be in pinstripes when he grew up, he was even drafted by the Yankees and chose college ball, but said it was a tough choice and hoped hed end up there eventually. In terms of his personal life, he is in a relationship with Maggie, a young and lovely girl. We already know its you. Baez 14.5 WAR Atlanta enters Saturday having lost three straight and is 2 games back of the New York Mets for first place in the NL East. Lordy the braves are waaaaay ahead of the curve in finding talent. Strider was not on track to be a Super Two. SARASOTAWhat's happening? Doubtful, Strider was just crying and nobody in NY gives a fk what he says. How do you know what hell be just as willing to do? So the only time he could qualify for Super 2 status is after 2023. Salaries Awards Draft Leaderboards Cards Proper Name: Spencer Robert Strider High Level: MLB (2021-2022) Positions: P (55) Height: 6-0 Weight: 195 Bats: Right Throws: Right Born: Oct 28,1998 age: 24.116 place: Columbus,OH High School: Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville,TN) colleges: Clemson University (Clemson,SC), Drafted: Brilliant! I will let you do the math. Baezs peak, two 6 rWAR seasons in 2018-19, are something Swanson only came close to in 2022 (though, pro rated, his 2020 would have gotten close). Strider was the NL Rookie of the Year runner-up to Braves teammate Michael Harris II. Lengthy extensions to position players I get. Buying out those arbitration years is key to these deals imo. In a time in baseball when contact is of the least importance and shifts were used at an all-time high, why players refused to adjust to defensive alignments. Spencer Strider was born on October 28, 1998. Grisssoms a likely utility player or trade chip. The problem is they still have the potential to either end up in the bleachers or the nose-bleed sections, or even if they get great seats behind homeplate, they are still losing nearly 30% on the gamble. As for real estate, go check the difference. A fourth-round gem in the extremely truncated 2020 draft (five rounds), Strider skyrocketed through the Braves system despite a lack of minor league games in 2020, ultimately making his Major League debut late in the 2021 season. Atlanta, of course, had previously already signed outfielder Ronald Acuna Jr. and second baseman Ozzie Albies to club-friendly extensions. We will gladly take him, throw in 20 million of his salary as well since you feel as though youve overpaid for him? Spencer Strider's net worth is $76,667,934. older demographic) are even able to do that? Padres fans loved it in 2017 when they locked him up, but carrying the last 3 years of that deal was brutal for them. Lame. I really hope Dansby is extended and I think he will (hes a local guy and by all accounts loves being a Brave). Injuries and regression could always push any of these extensions from bargain to burden particularly in the later stages of the deals, when the salaries are come with more heft. Spencer Strider is one of the best young pitchers in the Atlanta Braves organization. The Braves are getting 2 years of FA for $44 million total. I dont count him anyway as hes not exactly in his first or second year. Not going to roast you on Sewmake, Mercenary, but imo theres no possibility of him being considered as a viable replacement for Swanson. Revenue in baseball is going up and salaries will also. He will finish the year with exactly ONE FULL YEAR OF SERVICE!! Winning is irrelevant. While I suppose they are blacked out on MLB.tv, but then you can just watch them on Apple TV instead. Cant believe how many time the site posts the same comment. Love numbers, very structured, feel a level of entitlement with your degree, but your education built knowledge in a subsection of society that doesnt resonate with people outside your industry, so you come off like a pompous no-it-all, but really you have no true foundational advanced level education to help you structure arguments or support your statements! Conversely, How about them Mets? Its not playing victim. The Braves got a significant discount on the 2 FA years. To think 6 years ago Braves fans on here were defending their FO not trading Jim Johnson at the trade deadline and acting like finishing with a better record than the Phillies and Reds that year was going to lead to a giant step forward. Then he will still have one more arb year after that. Their window didnt change with this signing. Yum, yum, peach juice flowing, baby. Over the next 6 years youd probably end up paying him $40m anyway, making the cost of your gamble roughly $40m, since presumably youre paying the buy out in 2029. The deal includes a $22M club option, with a $5M buyout." - @ MLB Transaction Tracker. When Cleveland was playing TB, they had lunchtime games. Only long term deal we signed was lindor who is young in his prime. Half these contracts wont work out. I hope Bloom is watching the Braves and learning. Vons king of the hill when it comes to Phils fans on here. To an SP, well, it seems awfully risky. Ozzie Albies is controllable through the '27 season. Other then that what aging crap did we sign? Really mature young man. No respect. That means $36 million for each of the two seasons. eligible. Ill I know is Harvey dominated in playoffs and Strider just got lit up. Same for TrumboJumbo w/the Angels and Yankee Clipper w/the Yanks. And it becomes contagious in the clubhouse imo. If the Braves pick up that net $17MM option for the 29 campaign, Strider will earn a total of $92MM over seven years. Maybe MLB realizes that they werent actually racist. If you dont you price yourself out of future contracts by playing the waiting game. Theres risk for sure, but if AA is doing it (hes been notoriously risk-aversive since arriving) Im giving him the benefit of the doubt. What's the Dodgers' plan at shortstop? Braves fans will be the first ones screaming when all these long term signing dont work out and the team starts getting hamstrung. Pads Fans spends 5 hours a day commenting from multiple accounts and STILL doesnt know how Super Two works. @Run. My point was that Soto would be worth at best $140M in excess value, he tried justifying the $200M by saying it was the premium for trading for a star. Marlins will never have the fanbase to be elite. Though for the sake of my Mets, I hope they penny pinch and let him walk, haha. He is going to see a huge raise to around $25 million this offseason. This seems like something the MLBPA would endorse. Enjoy the Braves playoff run while you whimper about what could have been for your Mutts. Baseball Almanac is pleased to present a unique . Get it done AA. I expect the Braves are going to go to Dansby and say Dansby, you see what were trying to do here. And no, he does not get credited with two years of service time for this year because he spent the whole year on the major league roster AND was a ROY finalist. I expect to see him elsewhere next year. Say it once, see it 4-5 times. 4th year $30+ MM Going to be stunned if AA downgrades at SS w/their current competitive excellence at all other positions except left field. Players use that as a bargaining tactic all the time. The only way this deal makes sense is if Burnes and Fried get paid over $75M between their final arb year and their first two years of Free Agency. If you dont believe me or you think there is something to argue look at non Super 2 Corbin Burnes and Super 2 Max Fried and youll see that their $19-22.5M through 5 service years each is a fraction of the Strider deal, despite All-Star appearances, Gold Gloves, Silver Sluggers, and a Cy Young award between them. Do they really think someone is going to go subscribe to Apple TV (one of The Worst of the streamers) just to watch? I see little comparison between Strider and Harvey. Yanks2- If one argues that, their critical thinking skills would be worthy of criticism. Brilliant. If you dont catch it and cancel the extra comments before the edit button expires, it looks like youve repeated the same post. Braves should stay as far away from Correas mercenary thoughts (and bad back) as possible. Its amazing how many people are just totally willing to ignore the possibility of injury or decline in performance despite the dozens and dozens of examples weve seen. However, blocking some types of cookies may impact your experience of the site and the services we are able to offer. Shouldnt you still be ranting about how the Division race was over in May? Just saying. He has not stated how much he was paid by the teams while getting picked by the MLB. From the official MLB site: To qualify for the Super Two designation, players must rank in the top 22 percent, in terms of service time, among those who have amassed between two and three years in the Majors. AND he sells a lot of tickets and merchandise. The next time you attempt to impersonate a teacher, use of correct grammar and word definition might lessen your chance of being subjected to ridicule and the embarrassing eyerolls from those subjected to your pompous bloviations. Because of their long-term deals, they are already approaching their cap limit and for that reason will only be able to add Swanson or a frontline pitcher like DeGrom. Kind of like the super 2 guys getting that fourth arb year. Its about rewarding the player. Youll find that its a similar sounding word to allude. What exactly do those look like? Absolutely bham. Full-year historical Major League statistics provided by Pete Palmer and Gary Gillette of Hidden Game Sports. Essentially they trade the risk that he gets hurt and produces nothing in one or more years for the free first free agent year, and the discounted second free agent year assuming hes healthy. Wouldve been a massive overpay. Get over it already, your team choked, you should be used to Choketober and Choketember by now. And that is adding in a discount for Atlanta. The Braves have extended yet another key member of their impressive young core, this time announcing a six-year, $75MM contract for right-hander Spencer Strider. If you dont like my reference, find a better one to contradict my point! So basically they guaranteed his arbitration scale in exchange for an extra year, with an option for another year for more money.
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