consisted of 5-shot groups at 100 yards. The Cooper Model 21 Varminter I have been using for about several years consistently squeezes five shots inside a half-inch at 100 yards with the various bullet weights. Norma 200, 55gr. Top 10 6.5 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) Rifles, .375 H&H Mag. The second rifle is a Traditions Outfitter single shot. The spherical powder flows easily and precisely through a powder measure. 100 yards with the 17 Grain V-MAX bullet at a catalog MV of 2550 fps. This medium-burning, double-base spherical powder works best in the .223 Remington shooting 55-grain and heavier bullets. Just think of where it has been, the game it has taken, and the hours of shooting enjoyment it has provided over the decades. To achieve a balance between keeping the bullet together on firing while travelling up the bore, the bullet actually has to be tough around the jacket and therefore the tip is really the only area that can be fragile to initiate expansion. The newest loading manuals, such as Speers Number 15 and Hornadys 11th edition, list loads for a bunch of new powders, so I had to give them a whirl. This is still capable of cleanly killing a fox. All Rights Reserved. shooting benches using a Caldwell Lead Sled rifle rest. load in a winchester mod. Most factory ammo features 50gr to 60gr projectiles.The 22-250 Remington Load Data for Peregrine Bullets is made available to enhance accuracy and consistency for the rifle connoisseur. Subscriber Services. I had some trouble with the 25 grain vmaxes, even though i have a 1:9 twist. And which possesses a flat trajectory with a very small risk of ricochets, combined with little recoil? Reloaders should be careful not to mix or switch case brands with a chosen load. After looking at load data for the 17 Mach IV and looking at Quickload, it seems something in the burn rate of IMR 4198, Vihta Vuori N110, Alliant 2400, Alliant Reloader 7, Hodgdon Lil'Gun, Alliant Blue Dot, and IMR 4227 would meet the requirement. The CCI A17 load uses a 17 grain Varmint Tip bullet at a human error as possible, the rifles were fired from the range's heavy Hornady Load Data. They are also very safe to shoot since the bullets do not exit the carcase and ricochets are non-existent just right for around the farm. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. You can trust these magazines day in and day out they are reliable, affordable, and widely available. 0 gr with H4350 in 30-06 using a 165 gr sierra HPBT. mean average group = 1-17/32". are the Speer 180- and 220-grain softpoint flatnose (SPFN). Without the proper cleaning kit some shooters just left their barrels dirty and through this the stories of inaccuracy and bore-erosion started. Berger bullet You must log in or register to reply here. The neck of the case will be shorter than on cases formed from .22 Hornet brass, but accuracy is the same and flickertails dont seem to mind. Although I enjoy reloading, I would rather spend time hunting. In the .257 Ackley Improved, the powder shot Sierra 100-grain Pro-Hunter bullets at 3,018 fps. COL @ 1.800" snowpro440 Silver $$ Contributor Feb 12, 2016 #9 I use H4198 in my .17 Fireball and a 25gr. I've had several 17's since 1977 and 3031 has produced good performance in all of them. Ballistic coefficients of those with plastic tips are considerably higher than the hollowpoints. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. Aug 29, 2009 Was at the gun show this am, looking for some h 4350 powder. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. Its best use is for low-pressure, cast-bullet loads in the .223 on up to the .45-70. Favorite loads for your .17 Remington - PredatorMasters Forums Welcome to the Predator Masters Forums Be sure to visit the main Predator Master website at Log In ] Predator Masters Home Forums Hunting Reloading & Ammo Favorite loads for your .17 Remington Register User Forum List Calendar Active Topics FAQ Who's Online Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 > First, a bit of background history. I was shooting a custom Remington 40X in .220 Swift, and out to 300 yards my friend never failed to match me shot for shot. Mag. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Using the data guides .223 62,350-psi maximum average pressure loads, I used A-2520 to shoot 60-grain bullets at nearly 3,000 fps, 65-grain bullets at 3,037 fps and 69-grain bullets at 2,788 fps. This means the reloader must exercise care when resizing cases. Just because LVR was the best powder doesnt mean there werent other good performers. largest group 2-3/4"; mean average group = 1-13/32". I later bought an OBrien rifle in .17 Mach IV, and after shooting it for about 10 years, I sold it to a collector. The .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (.17 HMR) cartridge is based on a .22 WMR case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. five .17 HMR loads. The home of Shooting Times, Sporting Gun and Airgun Shooter. CCI TNT ammo exceeded its advertised MV by 34 fps, the Federal Premium However, some Marlin Model 336s have been observed with very short throats that may contact the bullet when a cartridge is chambered. Joined: Dec 2015. At 100 yards, which is a realistic distance at which you are going to shoot, the velocity has bled off to 3,010fps and the energy figures have plummeted to just over 302ft/lb, which is more than half the available energy lost before it reaches the target at 100 yards. . Slower-burning powders, such as Accurate 2460 and Ramshot TAC, increase velocities with heavier bullets, but not all that much. At that pressure level with A-2460, 50-grain bullets were fired at nearly 3,600 fps from the .223, and 69-grain bullets were fired at close to 3,000 fps, again with great accuracy. I never used RL19, so I have no . CCI 450. In addition, as I mentioned earlier, Hornady makes the innovative 200-grain FTX bullet. of sight. Hornady 123-grain Spire Point bullets loaded over LT-32 and fired from a CZ 527 7.62 x39 formed this 100-yard group. 6.8 Western 17 Fireball accuracy. The 220-grain version is a great choice for heavier gameat modest ranges, of course. Ackley and others began developing centerfire cartridges smaller than .22 caliber soon after the end of World War II, and they really got busy during the 1950s. All this gives the FTX a higher ballistic coefficient of .300 versus .195 for a roundnose bullet of the same weight. average velocities than called for by the factory specifications. A decrease in body taper gained back some of the capacity loss, but its gross water capacity is still about one grain less than for Ackleys version. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Id say that is darn good accuracy for a cartridge invented in 1906. Tips, techniques, and equipment are applied to these classroom discussions on how to become more proficient and successful at making long-range shots while hunting with AR-platform rifles. yard velocity/energy figures for this load are 1873 fps and 132 ft. lbs. All bullets were molly coated, and the groups are 5 shots at 100 yards. vs 9.3x62 Cartridge Clash, 11 Top Hunting Rifles Chambered in .350 Legend, Remington .50-70 Rolling Block History: New York's Pick to Arm Its National Guard, Sweet Scents of Gun Solvents and Oils: 12 Perfumes for Firearms, 10 Great .22 Mag Bolt-Action Rifles Right Now, Kimber Hunter Pro Desolve Blak - A Lightweight Heavy Hitter, Browning BLR Lightweight '81 Stainless Takedown Lever Rifle, Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC Rifle Review, Review: Springfield Armory M1A Loaded Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, RCBS ChargeMaster Lite Review: Not 'Lite' on Ability, Remington Model Seven SS HS Bolt-Action Rifle Review. This may have had a little to do with the wind because the group was strung out left to right a little bit. extreme spread 92 fps; average = 2595 fps. Test handloads for the .35 Remington were assembled with Hornady dies and shellholder No. IMR 4064 is a medium-range burn speed powder and is one of the most versatile propellant in the IMR line, used for 223 Remington, 22-250 Remington, 220 Swift, 6mm Remington, 243 Winchester Super Short Magnum, 308 Winchester, 338 Winchester Magnum, and the list goes on and on. largest group 2-3/8"; mean average group = 1-13/32". At 200 yards you will The only modification is a HS Varmint stock. All shooting with our five .17 HMR rifles was done at My 7RM did really well with H1000 with 168 and 180 HVLDs. Hey guys, i've got one of the Remington 700 SPS in 17 Fireball. his or her individual rifle. As a resultand as a testament to the .35 Rem.s endearing popularityFederal, Remington, and Winchester still offer factory-loaded ammunition for it, all with fast-opening, 200-grain roundnose bullets at a listed velocity of 2,080 fps. Please enable javascript before you are allowed to see this page. .17 rimfire rifles are normally tested with a good quality telescopic sight set at a magnification of nine power or higher. These are 5-shot groups fired at 100 yard targets. Never seen anything like that before! The new .20 calibres now coming on to the market, however, are very interesting and will be my next calibre to review. Thats why, even today, people who talk of the .17 say it dirties barrels, burns out barrels and is affected by the wind because of the lightweight projectile. All proved to be The chronograph was The cartridge overall length (COL) is also important for proper feeding from the magazine. It was the most accurate rifle and load I ever used. During fire-forming the case will headspace on its rim and the shoulder will be moved forward to the Ackley position. However, I have a good H4350 load for the. Sighted-in about 2 inches high at 100 yards, the FTX load hits only 1 inch low at 200 yards. As with the 6.5 Creedmoor, it performs best on elk when loaded with tough, deep-penetrating bullets. published MV by a whopping 125 fps. Power Pro 2000MR, IMR 4064, VV N135, TAC, and X-Terminator showed promise with good groups and low C.O.V.s. However, there is always some These bullets fired slightly at a velocity above 1,600 fps are pretty much at full-power from the Marlins 18.5-inch barrel stiff recoil verified it. gave us the best aiming precision. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. rounds of ammunition for record. Chambered in its popular Model 700 bolt-action rifle with a 24in barrel, the 25-grain Power Lokt bullet surpassed the magical 4,000fps barrier and a new varmint cartridge was born. V-MAX bullet at a MV of 2550 fps and ME of 245 ft. lbs. The full-page lead photo was filled with two hunters, one tiny rifle and a huge Alaskan brown bear wearing a hide that surely squared 10 feet or better. Best of luck with the Cooper Rifle. We shot at Outers Score Keeper targets. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. v-max, seated .020" off the lands. 77/17VMBBZ, Savage A17 and Savage Model 93R17-BVSS). The M1903 was first used in combat during the Philippine-American War, and it was officially adopted by the United States as the standard infantry rifle on June 19, 1903 . Gee, I thought there'd be a bunch of posts on this one! His most successful wildcat, the .17 Hornet Improved, requires an RCBS die set for forming the case. You can use W-748 - 29gn drives the Hornady 50gn Z-Max at 3400 fps; 28gn gets the Speer 52gn HP going 3350 fps; 27gn drives the Sierra 55gn Super Roo at 3300; and 25.5gn pushes the Hornady 60gn V-Max along at about 3100 fps. Expecting to receive a half-dozen or so, I was quite surprised after opening the package to see more than 30 different cartridges ranging in size from the .17 Lilliput on a shortened .22 Hornet case to the .17 Swift on the full-length .220 Swift case. I got to know Ackley while he was doing some rifle work for me during the 1960s and 70s. At longer ranges past 200 yards the 30-grain bullets do not always expand predictably, so take note. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Remington brass and the Federal 205M primer were used in all the following loads. blank range (MPBR), allowing a 1.5" deviation above and below the line Remington 7 1/2. H322 w/ 50 gr. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. By that time most of his hearing was gone, and his daughter would answer the phone and relay the conversation back and forth between her father and the caller. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. During one of those conversations, I requested samples of any sub-caliber wildcats Ackley might have on hand. place at an indoor range. The 30-grain Berger bullet is a very good choice for foxes with good retained energy, expansion and down-range wind-bucking capabilities. Though, as with all the .17 bullets, if you push them too fast, too soon, the high rotational spin in flight can cause the bullet to disintegrate before it reaches the target. With the Hornady 200-grain RN, a charge of 44.0 grains gave a velocity of 2,145 fps, with a muzzle energy of 2,044 ft-lbs. We show you how. is recommended for this task. It was chambered for cartridges that were designed to be direct competitors of the M94s cartridges. CCI's published 100 Simply run a case through the Ackley full-length resizer and it is ready to load. For the 5.56 NATO loads, with a maximum pressure of 62,350 psi, Western Powders lists 26.1 grains of A-2200 that shoots the Nosler bullet at a very quick 3,578 fps. Shooting reloads may void any warranty on your firearm. This means the bullet hits dead on at 145 yards and about 1.5" low at 22g of H322 with a 25g Berger, always use a thick cup primer in the 17 Remington: Standard load for a 17 Remington is 24g of 4320, but velocity is 4150 and you will have to de copper after 25 rounds, especially in a new barrel. all five .17 HMR loads delivered significantly higher velocity at 10', rather than actual MV. A dose of 43.0 grains of LVR gives it a muzzle energy of 2,219 ft-lbs. Theres another point thats important when reloading the .35 Rem. A standard for the .35 Rem. course of chronographing the five types of ammunition. Called flyers--the result of sierra Gameking , AOL. staff members, including yours truly, shot groups through five Accurate Shooter Forum and Daily Bulletin Gun Blog. Location. After that, the die is set for head-spacing on the shoulder of the case. Roundnose bullets that mimic factory loads are available from Hornady and Sierra. Madison, Wi. CCI TNT: smallest group 1/2"; largest group 2-1/4"; I'll be headed to the range this weekend and hope that this new load will shoot accurately while looking for signs that the load may be to hot. It has a 20-inch barrel with Marlins Micro-Groove rifling and a 1:16-inch twist, and it wears a Cabelas Pine Ridge 3-9X 40mm scope. 4831 is the better powder for the 25/06. Only thing I don't like about the 17 cal is, bullets. The Then you seem to have a .244, not a 6mm Remington. They are accurate, flat shooting, quiet and have practically no In my opinion, as a dedicated varmint rifle it has a lot to offer the British shooter if used sensibly. can also be quite accurate. The Western Powders manual lists Hornady 250-grain roundnose bullets with a velocity of 2,500 fps when paired with 52.0 grains of A-2015. For decades, I burned every powder imaginable in the .35 Whelen with hopes of firing 250- grain bullets at 2,400 fps. I'm burning Tac and 25 gr VMAX in my old 17 Rem and it really shoots well. Remington introduced it in 1971, and soon thereafter a friend of mine bought a Model 700 BDL chambered for it. Javascript is required. The .17 HMR round has a blistering muzzle velocity of 2,500 fps. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. The 17 Rem. Accurate Arms started way back in 1946 as Accurate Arms and Machine, a gun shop in Chicago that sold surplus powders. the Isaac Walton rifle range, located in the forested hills south of Accurate 2460 shot 20- and 25-grain bullets a good 250 fps faster than other powders loaded in the .17 Fireball, and with great accuracy. Accurate Arms was incorporated in McEwen, Tennessee, in 1980, after several years of selling surplus powders from the U.S. government. Extreme velocity spread was 12 fps. .17 Remington - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Recipe Type: Bullet Weight: Recipe Source: Starting Max Source 15.5 gr NTX (HDY) 0.172" Powder: Benchmark (Hodgdon) Primer: REM 7 Case: REM Trim Length: 1.786" C.O.L. Today the problem is rectified by properly sourced kit but, as they say, mud sticks. Pressures are about 20,000 pounds per square inch (psi) with 12.0 grains of A-5744 and Lymans 225646 55-grain cast bullet in the .223. Next was the .32 Winchester Special in 1902. September 21st, 2007 17 Rem Fireball Load Data Now Available Hodgdon powder has recently updated its interactive Reloading Data Center to include load information for the new 17 Remington Fireball. The .35 Remingtons rim was slightly larger, at 0.460 inch, and the case was a little shorter, 1.92 inches versus 2.03 inches for the other Remington rounds. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Well, the reasons are simple. It can be loaded in the .22 Hornet and in the .223 Remington with 55-grain and lighter bullets. The Model 8 was offered in the .25, .30, .32, and .35 Remingtons. is a fine Coyote cartridge but also, this round doesn't chop wood at all. |
Oleman The Sierra 200-grain RN is very similar to Hornadys, and it registered 2,198 fps with a charge of 43.0 grains of LVR; it grouped into an inch or less. In the .25-06, Hornady 75-grain V-MAX bullets topped out at 3,508 fps with 56.5 grains of the powder. Conclusion 100 yard figures are 1901 fps and 136 ft. lbs. After firing many rounds through a Marlin Model 336, I have to say that LVR is far and away the best powder for this cartridge, but there are several other propellants that also work well. I'd load 55 and 60gn bullets in your rifle. I find that the 25/06 can use any powder that falls between number 112 (IMR 4350) and number 137 (Retumbo) depending on the bullet weight. The .17 caliber rimfire cartridges include the .17 M2, .17 HMR and .17 WSM. Ruger No. Powder shortages over the last few years have also aided Accurates acceptance, as handloaders turned to alternatives for unavailable favorites. Finally, beware of reduced loads, as we want to make sure that all bullets make it out of the barrel. Give a Gift
Accordingly, I sight-in my .17 HMR rifle to hit 1.5" high at Fortunately, shooting .17 HMR rifles is really If you are shooting magpies, crows or other feathered vermin then a rapidly expanding 15-grain or 18-grain Berger is just the ticket. All recorded groups are fired from a solid bench rest at an outdoor rifle range. Standard Large Rifle primers are perfectly adequate for the .35 Rem., as most powder charges are in the 40- to 45-grains range. Years ago, a friend who worked at Remington informed me that more Model 700 rifles in .17 Rem. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. I have now owned five different .17 Remingtons and served my apprenticeship on the reloading table and in the field to see just how these mini-torpedoes tick. ambient air temperature varied between 55 and 80 degrees. Nevertheless, there was only a .5-inch difference between the groups shot with the three powders. I also load 72gr in a Browning X-bolt, for a good . In a precision-built rifle with a good barrel, the .17 Rem. is readily suitable for shooters to load their own ammunition, and dies, other tools, and accoutrements are available, as are bullets especially designed for the round. The other top-sellers are the .17 Mach IV, .17 Rem., .17 Fireball and Hornadys .17 Hornet. We have found the accuracy potential of all three cartridges to be excellent and essentially the same. Best powders By this same token, if the bullets jacket is too hard then controlled and predictable expansion on target can not be relied on, which it needs to be if it is to withstand the friction and heat generated when fired at hyper-velocity. U.S.-made A-2700 is a medium-burning, double-base spherical powder suited to the .22-250 Remington, .220 Swift and .243 Winchester. Today, the .35 Rem. This fast-burning, double-base, extruded powder is made in Canada. As for propellants, the hands-down choice with all bullets is LVR from Hodgdon, so lets look at the LVR loads. instrumental velocities for our five loads, including the highest These last two perform better in faster twist barrels, which really gives the reloader a lot of scope when producing their own ammunition. Bullet weight: 168, 180 Berger HVLDs. 71 fps; average = 2775 fps. The .223 Remington was developed as a varmint cartridge. What It Is Not. FEDERAL Premium V-Shok: high 2631 fps; low 2539 fps; It may not display this or other websites correctly. Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.92", (TIE) CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 1.06", Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 1.08", (TIE) Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 1.13", (TIE) Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 1.16", Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 1.21", Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.25", Winchester 1885 Low Wall Hunter, .17 WSM - 1.25", Savage Model 93R17 Classic, .17 HMR - 1.31", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.44", Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.46", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.54", Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 2.05", Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 0.69" (Remington), Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.73" (CCI), Savage B.MAG Target, .17 WSM - 0.75" (Winchester), Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 0.80" (Remington), Remington Model 597 LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.84" (CCI), Browning T-Bolt Target/Varmint, .17 HMR - 0.88" (Winchester), Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 0.93" (Remington), Weatherby Mark XXII, .17 HMR - 0.94" (Hornady), CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 0.96" (CCI), Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.98" (Federal), (TIE) Marlin Model 917VS ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.0" (Hornady), Anschutz Model 1502 D HB, .17 M2 - 1.06" (Hornady), Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.13" (Hornady), (TIE) Savage Model 93R17-BTVS, .17 HMR - 1.17" (CCI), (TIE) Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.25" (Hornady), Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.27" (Hornady & Remington - tie), (TIE)Henry Golden Boy, .17 HMR - 1.40" (Remington), Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.47" (CCI), Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 1.5" (Remington). A few .12 and .14 calibers emerged, but those of .17 caliber ended up being the most popular. Standard Large Rifle primers are perfectly adequate for the .35 Rem., as most powder charges are in the 40- to 45-grains range. Drifts at 300 yards in a 10-mph cross breeze are 14 inches for the .17 Hornet versus 11 inches for the .223 Rem. Loads are also listed for the .219 Zipper and .225 Winchester, which are rarely seen in the varmint fields these days. There is a great deal of variation in .22 Hornet brass. Subscriber Services. hollow-point (JHP) varmint bullet at a claimed muzzle velocity (MV) of I dumped 19.5 grains of A-2520 directly from a powder measure into .17 Remington Fireball cases and seated Hornady 25-grain V-MAX bullets. There is only so much powder you can burn efficiently down that tiny barrel diameter, and because of this, very small changes of powder weights can give skyward pressures and inconsistency, therefore change your powder weights by 1?10th increments. Ive loaded A-2495 in the .243 Winchester shooting 70-grain bullets. It may seem odd that a cartridge shooting fat, heavy bullets at moderate velocities would still be popular 116 years after its introduction. Five loads with A-4064 and 40-, 50- and 55-grain bullets in the .22-250 averaged .68 inch for five-shot groups. Groups were measured from center to center of the
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