EVE adds energy weapons to Joe Cobb's gang. Turn in all 3 supply caches and pass the Science check for the irradiated supplies (+2). The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. I do like the lore of the powder gangers a lot more than goodsprings. Shunned basically means they don't want anything to do with you, but not more than that. The jail was understaffed. Should the player character approach Dawes in disguise, he will notice that they are not an actual Powder Ganger and tell them so. He helped the gangers take the town and "received rep with the gangers" which promptly disappeared. He can unlock the door for a price of 100 caps. The gangers weren't even on my rep list despite being hated with goodsprings..not neutral not hated not likednothing. On the road northwest of the facility are six signs that read "NOTICE: Hitch hikers may be escaped prisoners" with the, The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of, Each of the Powder Ganger snipers have an entry for. I reloaded my last save which I made 2 hours ago :(. But if you help Good Springs you get a handful of caps and well nothing else except now you have to battle your way everywhere since the Powder Gangers hate you and for what? I like to do the Goodsprings side personally because Doc Mitchell is the main doctor I buy meds from. NCR Correctional Facility Be violent enough and fit right in. I don't think that "Shunned" is enough for them to attack on sight. Quests I am Villified, but no matter how many of them I kill they only stay hostile so long as I'm in combat with them. 1K. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. But their mines are good tho. You currently have javascript disabled. Convinced the Omerta Thugs to leave peacefully (+2). (Note: Script for Primm reputation exists within the game, but is not used.). Once the dialogue is complete, check the Pip-Boy. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Accessing the "Squad Readiness Reports Terminal" on the front desk in the. Broken, bitten, maimed and cut. Both types of reputation are tracked separately, the combination of which determines one's reputation with any given faction. It's a sort of tutorial for the reputation system. Warden Nathan EddieSergeant Lee (optional) How do I do that? Doctors [Non-game 1] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel was present at the site, killed the warden, and established their own rule. Each action that gains Fame or Infamy is assigned a set value in the editor, which is added via script: Fame and Infamy (denoted 1 and 0 in the console) are earned by doing helpful or harmful deeds, respectively, to the faction. Hey all, I'm no new player to fallout but I've had a problem crop up. They can kill him without incurring the wrath of the other gang members and enter the facility. This gives you access to a Gangers merchant before the assault and then you can wrap up Ghost Town Gunfight 75% off all statistics are made up on the spot Fighting Deathclaws when you're at LOW level <: P, I fought the law without losing reputation. Unlike other items in his inventory, pickpocketing the key will never fail as long as the player character is hidden. The Gangers are violent and hate the NCR with a passion. Quests The Powder Gangers are hostile toward me. Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. Even if the player character's reputation is neutral, if they have sided with the. When I was just shunned second time they did not turn hostile and I could talk to Eddie. Unless this was patched in, then no. Powder gang merchants will sell to the player character with 1-to-1 exchange rate. He even ask for the pardon and he want to protect primm from any harm by his frontier justice and put on the sheriff's uniform to make things cooler. Only chance probably is to use stealthboys to get to Eddie. (Really early spoilers, I guess? For example, if killing a Powder Ganger while wearing a uniform of theirs, it might reset all faction reputations. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Also, assuming you care about what your reputation is with the Powder Gangers, the reputation reduction you by killing them in the quest hardly affects anything regarding the three or four quests regarding the Powder Gangers. As part of this quest, bands of Legion assassins will attack the player at, Admiring the purity of the Legion's justice when first accepting. (So they wouldn't fall off cliffs). I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? I recently started a new play through of Fallout New Vegas, and i wanted to do some of the powder gangers quests because i had never done them before. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. Then complete quests and earn Fame which will increase from neutral and go up, but only so long as one is wearing that faction's armor. Huh. I Fought the LawMy Kind of TownEddie's Emissary Several Powder Gangers mill about the yard, and several are posted at the tops of the towers. What happened was is I sided with good springs at the beginning and killed all the other guys, then after being vilified I used console commands to set my rep with them to neutral and when that didn't work, idolized. Mayor is the only one who don't want to take part in any crime because he himself was a crime fighter, get put to the jail because he's too hardcore. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. The community on the outskirts of the Strip has its own code, accepting to those that help, and shunning to those that do not. 000E19D6 (exterior)0008D516 (admin)0008D0FA (cell block A)0008D48E (cell block B)0008D0D5 (visitors center) [Non-game 1][7][Non-game 2]. He sells chems and a few odds and ends. Visitors centerNCR CF administrationCell block ACell block B Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Boone to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt decently before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+4). Bribe him with powder ganger disguise on you. Fallout New Vegas community and everything related. In cell block B, the Courier can find Carter, a small-time trader, who has set up shop in the cell block. You need to do both quests for them in order to even get a liked reputation and on the way to the prison you can't even kill the ones that attack you or you lose reputation. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. A possible solution is to travel to the Mojave Outpost, put on non-faction clothing/armor, go to where Major Knight is located, save and then speak to Major Knight; select the Speech option asking if there is anything the player can do to help. Blew up the monorail, but failed to frame a. Carter Scout Primm and learn of the NCR's plans (+1). I mean disappeared too. [Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. Plenty of things to do in good ol' Novac to impress the locals. I can't remember if Shunned reputation is enough to actually trigger a faction hostile-on-sight, though. Only chance probably is to use stealthboys to get to Eddie. Joe Cobb): You've actually got to betray them to get that outcome. New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. Chet can actually store some good crafting parts, some rarer mods, and for some reason I often see him keeping around a bunch of Caravan cards. Basically the same problem I had. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to . During the same scenario as above, it is confirmed that he will propose a truce, in which the player character stays away from the gang outposts and the gang leaves them alone. When I want to play with the Powder Gangers, I just skip the Good springs confrontation altogether. Terminals Speaking to him will initiate the I Fought the Law quest. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. There's absolutely no reason to be friendly with the Powder Gangers since their quests are pretty awful, and you don't get any decent swag. NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter You can get infamy with the Powder Gangers, and if have a mod that fixes the bug where the Powder Gangers faction wasn't given evil karma, you can steal from them without a karma penalty. Eddie can still see through your disguise, but there's a delay between the time where he first spots you and when he aggros. This quest is pretty bad designed, I mean if you want to clean out the facility you have to play nice with the gangers first? Towns will never be permanently hostile to the player character; leaving the town for three days and returning should remove any hostility. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt fully before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+12). You Have Been Warned. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt slightly before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+2). Ref ID Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. Negative reputation yields the following: The nomadic army from the East is notoriously hard to impress, but incredibly easy to offend. This happened to me when I was vilified. Link: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/I_Fought_the_LawFallout New Vegas I Fought the Law (Powder Ganger) Quest Walkthrough Fame is positive and Infamy is negative. You get a lot more caps if doing the Goodsprings side, 100 caps initially, 150 when you meet Ringo at Crimson Caravan. The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. Two additional entrances are opened during the New California Republic assault at the end of the Powder Gangers' questline. There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. One such gap in the fence is situated between the lookout tower and the visitors center and the other is located almost directly opposite it, along the eastern fence. Warden's terminal Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). The Brotherhood of Steel will give the player character a key to the, They will replenish an ammunition crate next to, Lucius will teach the player character the special, The Legion will also provide various items within boxes outside of, Allows the player character to convince the mercenaries in, Allows the player character to convince each camp in, Required along with a Speech of 50 to trade with. Five of the six towers have Powder Gangers posted at the top, and each contains minor stealable loot, consisting of mostly ammunition and healing items. Securitron J7-82463 here, under the direct authority of New Vegas' sole proprietor, Robert Edwin House. Reply. The player character may receive discounts with merchants, provoke attacks from hired thugs, or simply be treated differently. Mercy killing the NCR trooper hostages (+2). --------------COMPATABILITY-------------- Worsen the condition of an injured Boomer at the. Also im playing on the backwards compatible version for Xbox 1 so console commands arent an option. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment positively on each of them (+1 each). Well It ried that and it didn't work, screw it I'm just going to kill them all and see if I get the good ending anyway. AnotherGuy18 6 yr. ago. I only start in Goodsprings occasionally. Unlike factions, they cannot alter a town's reputation with faction armor. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:58 pm. Later down the line you will be making amny choices that end up affecting your reputation with various factions. How do you get the key to open a set of doors in sunset sarsaparilla headquarters? It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Unlike other mods that add in new races or genders to the Powder Gangers, this mod comes with fully voiced dialogue for these Femgangers that not only reacts to nearby events occurring, such as a named Ganger dying or Quarry Junction being cleared out or Hidden Valley blowing up, but also sound right at home with a criminal. For example, if the player character wears Legion armor and kills an NCR soldier, Infamy will be gained, but will be reset to one's prior reputation upon the removal of the disguise. You can loot one from Joe Cobb. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. In other words, while it is possible to move from 'Hated' to 'Sneering Punk', then 'Unpredictable', then 'Dark Hero' by doing more and more good deeds while avoiding bad ones, there is no permanent way to move from 'Hated' back to 'Neutral' or from 'Hated' to 'Idolized.' With the exception of the White Glove Society, Great Khans and Powder Gangers in Vault 19, all factions will attack the player with a negative reputation. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. However, he will continue in casual dialogue as long as one has a good reputation with the gang. But, you loose a lot of rep with them if siding with Goodsprings. There seems to be a lot of Powder Ganger questions today. Technical Fame/Infamy are tracked independently of each other. Similar to this, one can "sit" in one of the outhouses in the southwest corner from outside the fence, effectively teleporting them inside the facility. Flatter Caesar by asking how to serve "the mighty Caesar" further when talking again after dealing with the, Teach Decanus Severus at Cottonwood Cove how to make, Defeat the two slaves in the arena during. I swore that this time around I wouldn't kill any of them, except in the Goodsprings thing, but I just can't help myself from killing every single one of them. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Support items like the NCR Emergency Radio will also become useless, and faction privileges like the McCarran monorail will be lost. The Powder Gangers, also known as the Powder Gangsters, are an antagonistic faction in the Fallout universe. He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. IMO the best good guy plan is to not finish Ghost Town Gunfight until you do I Fought the Law. I see so many ppl on here w/ reputation bugs (myself included)I wish an official fix would come out soon. If one has gained a reputation with them (whether good or bad) it will not reset to neutral if the player character equips a faction armor. Even if the player character is idolized by the Boomers, the doctor will not provide them any medical attention, saying that he needs any supplies left to treat the wounded. The combined effects of the two scales result in an overall reputation that is either positive, neutral, or negative. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment negatively on each of them (-1). Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? Alternatively, you could acquire an NCR uniform to disguise yourself and try if you can then talk to Dusty or even Andy about their quests. Local map Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. Yeah, but given the circumstances the NCR are serving as the marshals, troopers and governor therefore they would have the power to pardon and deputize at their own discretion. [Non-game 1] However, as the war with the Legion escalated, more and more prison guards were redeployed to the Colorado River despite the warden's objections. So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. However, upon equipping an NCR faction armor/clothing, there is a chance reputation will reset back to neutral again. Siding with the Powder Gangers in Goodsprings will get you Shunned by the NCR. Specific consequences of reputation within towns include: Scripted instances of town Infamy include: Impressing the reclusive gun-toting tribe is an art. and they're playing poker! Hostile is different. Some think that the reset of reputation is caused by committing an infamous act towards a faction while wearing that faction's clothing. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at a discount price. Activate the self-destruct sequence of the Hidden Valley bunker (-100). By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. I've been able to pickpocket the key from the dude at the front gate of the prison (and enter Hidden) then go talk to the guy who would then go to Primm (forgot name) without having to fight the gang, but I did not shot any of them or fight them at Goodsprings, so default rep with them I guess, and no disguise. Though not active in game, it is included for the sake of completeness. One of the boxes always produces a random skill magazine. This is where the NCR sent prisoners to "reform" through hard labor. Anyway to undo it. Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. Thanks everyone for all the info. He will aggro as you leave but you can just repeat until you can side with the NCR. I have no idea if that works, though. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. Doing Cooke's quests also nets fame, but no rank up. 5. A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. If you don't kill any you don't get vilified. Credits Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. [Non-game 1] Some embarked further south to cause mayhem along the Interstate 15. They pray on caravans and travellers, including you. My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my . You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.) They're hostile to the player for the most part, so they're just asking to get popped. Once you're past that point there's very little you can do. Their biggest raid occurred on Sloan, where they stole an entire cache of dynamite used by the workers to mine Quarry Junction. Persuade the Great Khans to release the hostages and then tell the NCR to honor the agreement to escort them back to. This tip can be useful however if one needs to gain access to the NCR Ranger safe house or to use the monorail, or for additional help during the. Cookie Notice Well join the Powder Gangers. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! 102. It is possible to pickpocket the key from him to avoid the fee. At this point, the player character can choose to either kill Pearl (which will drop their reputation with the Boomers to Vilified) or fulfill their promise. 1. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was not rebuilt before agreeing to stage the attack on. All rights reserved. [Non-game 1] Given the fact that the convicts working on the railroads were provided with high explosives in their work and were predominantly violent criminals jailed for serious crimes, this created ripe conditions for a prison break. Not undermanned. Eddie holds the key to the Average locked room, which contains a substantial stash of ammunition and explosives. As part of the first quest mentioned above, an NCR hit squad will approach and warn to improve reputation with the NCR within three days. The game is good the story line is good but seriouslythe bugs and there are a LOT are starting to piss me off. They do shot you on sight because they are powder gangers. As if there's anything in this game that's not incomplete. I did the same when I reached novac and got shunned and now everyone attacks me on sight. There is also a fridge, a Sunset Sarsaparilla vending machine, and a Nuka-Cola vending machine. Saying Nipton "got what was coming to them" when first accepting the aforementioned quest from Vulpes (+1). New California Republic Correctional Facility, NCR Correctional Facility terminal entries, Warden's Terminal, Guard transfers to the east, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide faction profiles, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide Collector's Edition Tour of the Mojave Wasteland.